I sent this mail out mailing mailing list at www.metalab.at Hi Metalab Its Jamison, have been to the lab a couple of times to play music. I was based in Prague, I'm now based in Norway for 10months and then back to Prague. Just wanted to get your attention about an idea that would bring together these 3 concepts on the web. http://www.facebook.com http://ccmixter.org and this node on the icommons site http://www.icommons.org/node/calendar-songs Possible idea: The idea/concept would to create a console where people could record their tunes & upload into facebook. Similar to the video app within facebook. The content would be licensed using creative commons license (share alike) and the content once created would become a part of the artists account within CCmixtr. Others could re-mix the content and the original creator could choose if they wanted to have the remixed content within their profile on facebook. Its a lot of work yet I figured to throw the idea at the lab community for feedback. Why this is a positive idea ? more people get to know about CC licenses. content is created and shared within facebook and beyond. people understand the creative potential of the web and themselves. people understand that they can easily contribute within their community. better use of ideas, more efficient media. obviously heaps more as well. As I found out about creative commons through the lab, i figured to share this idea with the lab and though that some of you might be interested in the developing process. best, Jamison · 30/8/2007 00:27
	thoughts on your csongs: I kind of figure that writing a song that is available for remix is slightly different to the song that a performing artist writes to capture an audience. A lot of bands have tested songs out on the road 100 times prior to record & mix, so when they put them to the desk, the song is structured and the words sit with the space (yet maybe not the time of year). something maybe to consider. the calendar idea is not so important to production ideas I have for my tunes, yet a month to month timetable is. its more about getting artists to participate in the music I reckon. If your csongs allow commercial use (or even have both) then more artists are going participate as they can then maintain the commercial rights to the content that they remixed to the tunes. With standard BY. Then you would have to create an agreement with the artist that remixed to release and I kind of like that idea. This puts the remix artist in a better position than the creator of the material. Also the remix artist can release your song as they choose. Is this not better promotion for your songs, being unsigned this could be better distribution ? Excuse me if i have got the CC license confused here though. Another way ? If you said something like, each remix that is chosen for the final cut, the artist shall be paid 200 pounds plus being credited on album. Is this better ? as your maintaining your commercial rights this may create incentives for the artists to create better material. this could also dissolve publishing issues. as the artist is then part of a competition, you can create terms and conditions for a competition that they agree to when they upload. as your going to own the song under copyright law and what they add is always going to only enhance what you created (plus your maintain the commercial rights to the song under CC license you choose) is this better ? It seems like an issue that needs to be sorted out with a lawyer. What if the artist that remix your music demands a payment from you to release ? All these issues are a kind of grey fog to my mind. It needs some kind of legal philosophy to work. Every songwriter reckons that their tunes are special, yet the publishing world gives it value when its owned by a publishing company. To out-fox the publishing giants and give your music more colors maybe you have to allow commercial use. Jamison · 3/9/2007 22:33
	more thoughts its tricky, i would create a system that was as open as possible. maybe license some remixes one way and some another way. or let the re mixer choose. re mixers understand what they can work with and what they can't better than most songwriters. the incentive your creating is based on your ability to publish and if you don't have a publisher that does not make it so easy. i also wondered if you were thinking to remix and master the final mix. for sure i would be wanting hi quality files of all tracks that the artist contributes. yet maybe i'm to far behind and you can release this way. I spose you can always remix the original content with what they create, yet that is hard. i have been thinking about getting people to remix my songs using cc licenses for a while, the reason I haven't started is that i don't have a publisher. its a difficult situation, i don't think "self published" artists can compete with traditional copyright. that's more my issue. i have heard amazing music created that goes no-where as its not with a publisher or label. i would go standard BY and create agreements with tracks you liked for a release. your still going to have to have agreements anyway. you can then release under dual licenses, maybe i'm to complex with my thinking here though. the edge that you have is that your album is a new way of making music. the problem you have relates to the collection system and the publishing system, not so much if CC and trad copyright can effectively interact for marketing purposes. most publishers need the right to be able to collect moines that come in through the collection system. how are you able to give back to those that add to you song and still get a publisher ? you might find that all you have created is a demo that can't through the same channels as the demo the publisher got from another person. yet i'm no lawyer so I don't understand. i also don't know the aspirations you have for your particular project. i'm more interested in the platform for use by many artists, as I think you are as well ? i hope this is all understandable what i'm saying here ? Jamison · 6/9/2007 14:08
	also i created this idea and put it on the open business forum. http://www.openbusiness.cc/2007/08/29/creative-commons-ccmixtr-and-a-callender-into-facebook/ Jamison · 6/9/2007 14:09

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